Comments on: Historian Faces 20 Years for Holocaust Denial http://www.kipesquire.net/2005/11/historian-faces-20-years-for-holocaust-denial/ A Stitch in Time Saves Nine ... But Haste Makes Waste Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:02:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mahndisa http://www.kipesquire.net/2005/11/historian-faces-20-years-for-holocaust-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-1284 Mahndisa Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:40:18 +0000 http://www.kipesquire.net/?p=1799#comment-1284 Yeah, Holocaust denial is ridiculous and one could argue that it isn't protected free speech because the utterance of the denial causes tacit harm. But that is still a stretch IMHO. And I think the bigger picture is that all around the world right now, our individual rights are being usurped under the ostensible greater good moniker. Hmph! That is bothersome to me. In England, they passed a law that forbids folks from cooing at newborns in the hospital. Now tell me, don't you see a trend here? <br /> <a href=" http://mitchormike.blogspot.com/2005/11/cooing-banned-in-england.html" rel="nofollow">Mitch/Mike's blog about recent BBC article</a> Yeah, Holocaust denial is ridiculous and one could argue that it isn't protected free speech because the utterance of the denial causes tacit harm. But that is still a stretch IMHO. And I think the bigger picture is that all around the world right now, our individual rights are being usurped under the ostensible greater good moniker. Hmph! That is bothersome to me. In England, they passed a law that forbids folks from cooing at newborns in the hospital. Now tell me, don't you see a trend here?

http://mitchormike.blogspot.com/2005/11/cooing-banned-in-england.html" rel="nofollow">Mitch/Mike's blog about recent BBC article

]]> By: tIM http://www.kipesquire.net/2005/11/historian-faces-20-years-for-holocaust-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-1283 tIM Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:12:47 +0000 http://www.kipesquire.net/?p=1799#comment-1283 I used the think the same thing that just telling the truth will offset lies. but now as I age i'm willing to toy with the idea of "truth in teaching" to many fringe groups hide under the skirts of free speech and are able to raise impressionable followers thru out right lies. maybe only for certian positions and authors they would have to at least prove that what they say is not directly contridictory to the truth. I know it's dangerous ground but I'm at a loss to understand these people. I used the think the same thing that just telling the truth will offset lies. but now as I age i'm willing to toy with the idea of "truth in teaching" to many fringe groups hide under the skirts of free speech and are able to raise impressionable followers thru out right lies. maybe only for certian positions and authors they would have to at least prove that what they say is not directly contridictory to the truth. I know it's dangerous ground but I'm at a loss to understand these people.

]]> By: Andrew Cory http://www.kipesquire.net/2005/11/historian-faces-20-years-for-holocaust-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-1282 Andrew Cory Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:43:02 +0000 http://www.kipesquire.net/?p=1799#comment-1282 How do you feel abut DeBathification? Or the post WWII de-nazification? The Hungarian article made me think of them fairly immediately... <br /> <br /> Not that I'm in favor of what the government has done in that case, but some context is useful... <br /> <br /> <i>[Kip replies: There's a difference between purging past tyrants from the governmetn and suppressing freedom of speech for years or decades.]</i> How do you feel abut DeBathification? Or the post WWII de-nazification? The Hungarian article made me think of them fairly immediately…

Not that I'm in favor of what the government has done in that case, but some context is useful…

[Kip replies: There's a difference between purging past tyrants from the governmetn and suppressing freedom of speech for years or decades.]

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