Yeah, I admit those people are fulla crap. What also bothers me is the throngs of so called conservatives who actively endorsed this initiative. It is anathema to the principles of liberty to leave the application of civil rights to a popular vote. The tyranny of the majority rears its ugly head now. I don't understand how people twist the history of this country around to suit their religious zealousness. The Founding Fathers believed in a society of religious tolerance. We live in a pluralistic society so everyone cannot be a fundamentalist evangelical Christian or cultist…I find this initiative to be intrusive and wrong. Consenting adults should be able to get married if they so choose. Gay marriage can expand the tax base for goodness sakes!

And while my religion my prohibit gays from marrying in the church, the church is NOT the state.

One last thing is to reply to a comment of yours in a previous post where you castigated Black people for overwhelmingly NOT agreeing with Prop 8. What Black people cannot be bigoted too? Most Blacks are offended when their plight is compared to that of gays. After all, a gay white person can hide their sexuality but a Black looks Black and is treated as such.

Therefore, the gay lobby should change their lobbying paradigm and stop trying to couple themselves to oppressed ethnic groups. A far more powerful approach is to appeal to the human rights issues involved here,imho.